
In this session, Wonderflow CEO Gianluca Ferranti and Head of Product Mike Ruini explore why the product intelligence industry is at a turning point. Also, what does it mean for the brands and teams who rely on customer feedback to make decisions?
Gianluca sets out the three core challenges holding VOC programmes back today: fragmented data, slow insight-to-action cycles, and limited downstream impact. He then makes the case for why agentic AI is the real answer.
Mike takes a deeper look at what an "agent" actually is (and why most products using the word aren't really agents), before walking through Wonderflow's AgentEQX architecture and a live demo of their Kepler agent running on real data across cosmetics, kitchen appliances, and pet food categories.
Timestamps:
0:00 Welcome & introductions
1:20 The VOC market is at a tipping point
6:07 Three challenges holding VOC programmes back today
8:10 How agentic AI changes the equation
19:19 What an "agent" actually is — and why data quality matters more than the agent itself
24:54 Wonderflow's agentic architecture & the Wonder Agents family
36:04 Live demo: cosmetics — issue detection, segmentation, persona generation
44:57 Live demo: kitchen appliances — hypothesis validation
46:43 Live demo: pet food — gap identification
Transcript:
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Elisabetta Pisani: Hello, everybody. Thank you for joining us today.
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Elisabetta Pisani: While we wait for everybody to join, I think we are a bit curious to see who's joining us today, which team are you on, so we will issue a very short poll. If you want to answer, it's gonna be
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Elisabetta Pisani: Appearing on the screen.
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Elisabetta Pisani: And if you are from a team not mentioned, you can also write in the chat which other team you are joining us from. So, thank you for joining us for this webinar on the future
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Elisabetta Pisani: of Agentic AI on voice of the customer. Today, with us, we have Jaluca Ferranti, CEO of Wonderflow, and Mike Ruini, head of product.
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Elisabetta Pisani: As always, we encourage you to leave your questions in the Q&A section. You will see that there is a dedicated box for Q&A, and we will make sure to address those, either in written form or orally by the speakers.
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Elisabetta Pisani: So maybe we wait some minutes, and in the meanwhile, Gianluca can start sharing his screen and introducing a bit the topic. So the floor is yours.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Okay, thank you, Elizabeth and Katya behind the scene for arranging for this webinar today. Very excited. So, first of all, I want to make sure that my screen is
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Gianluca Ferranti: visible, so… Okay?
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Gianluca Ferranti: And, with me today, Mike Rivini, that is, not only the head of product at Wonderflow, but also one of the company founders. So he has seen
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Gianluca Ferranti: the whole journey, starting from a startup, bringing to the market a VOC platform, going forward 10 years to what we are today with this excitement news about the
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Gianluca Ferranti: Agentic approach.
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Gianluca Ferranti: So…
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Gianluca Ferranti: If you agree, I can start. I see a lot of people already joined, and thank you for taking the time to listen to our presentation today.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Today, the presentation is not just a standard product announcement for us, it's something more. We think that,
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Gianluca Ferranti: We are at the tipping point of the evolution of the product intelligence industry. If for the last 15 years.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Voice of the customer has been centered on, collecting various sources of data, obviously, starting from surveys for Wonderful, that, as one of the very first companies enter into the rating and review, collection and analytics, and extending into, merging all the internal customer care.
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Gianluca Ferranti: and support ticket data. We think we are at the edge of a new paradigm for the market, where in the next decade, so in the next phase of the market.
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Gianluca Ferranti: the product intelligence will see an acceleration, a dramatic acceleration, on how CMI marketing team will use customer feedback and customer data to enhance the existing portfolio product, optimize them, and obviously find new spots to enter.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Into new categories.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Let me spend 3 slides, three, about the company. I see there are a lot of non-customers registered for today's webinar. So, Wonderflow is a company that has been a pioneer in the enterprise VOC clients. We started more than 10 years ago.
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Gianluca Ferranti: onboarding some very large brand that, help us, found a spot and designed, the platform that over the years, evolved into what it is today. Being able to collect
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Gianluca Ferranti: a huge amount of customer review and customer feedback. Currently, we support more than 1,000 public and private data sources.
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Gianluca Ferranti: that are, collected, fine-tuned, and analyzed on a daily basis, in some cases in real time, to provide very specific, SQ-level, product information. This is based on a proprietary,
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Gianluca Ferranti: taxonomy that we have developed, proprietary AI model over the years, that will allow us to customize and give to all our clients the view into their data in a very, very precise way.
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Gianluca Ferranti: That's in line with our mission. I mean, for Wonderful and for my team, the objective is always to help our clients optimize their portfolio of products. We work mostly with consumer brands.
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Gianluca Ferranti: that, use customer feedback at a very granular level to optimize all the phases of a product lifecycle. From spotting an opportunity into new category, or new segment, or new,
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Gianluca Ferranti: Geographical market, to launching and developing new product, and to optimize the…
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Gianluca Ferranti: Online and retail channel for that specific product.
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Gianluca Ferranti: And we do that with some of the… and we are very proud to
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Gianluca Ferranti: do that with some of the best consumer-centric brands in the world. You see here just a few. We have some of the largest consumer electronics company. We are a very proud supplier of some of the leading tire producer, cosmetics, retail, fast-moving goods. Actually, the platform is used across the board.
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Gianluca Ferranti: In any industry, in any vertical, wherever there is a physical product to be developed or to be market.
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Gianluca Ferranti: So, if we go back to what we see today, where we see the market heading and the requests we are receiving.
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Gianluca Ferranti: from the market, and especially our existing customer base, we see that a lot has been done so far. There has been huge investment in customer experience platform, developing VOC program.
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Gianluca Ferranti: And most of the company today has a huge amount of data, but we see that there are at least 3 areas where our clients would like to improve, or the market as a whole. First of all, the fermentation of data.
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Gianluca Ferranti: As of today, collecting data across different channels, puts some challenges, because the data is not defined in the same way, is not available in a structured
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Gianluca Ferranti: way, so one of the theme is collecting and merging all these, widely available, data sources. The second one is the speed from insight to action, the speed from,
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Gianluca Ferranti: collecting a signal and translating into an activity, a program, or a workflow. This is currently, even if technology helps a lot, is still linked to the size of the team that handle the insight, and how these insights are distributed internally. And the
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Gianluca Ferranti: Third one is the limited impact of the insight. We tend to use the center's actionable insight, is a consumer, is an industry buzzword, but we see that going from report, or from the analytics.
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Gianluca Ferranti: to the change into the workflow is still an area where there is room for improvement. So the gap today is not the awareness, it's not the data, but it's how to move that into processes and recover the billions of dollars that are lost in the transition.
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Gianluca Ferranti: And we think that the recent announcement into the AI, especially the identity AI, so the last 12 to 18 months of innovation, unlocks a lot of opportunities for all the
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Gianluca Ferranti: the company that would like to, join this journey. The shift for us is moving from,
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Gianluca Ferranti: The analysis, so collecting data and producing reports, to… set in place
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Gianluca Ferranti: tools, or what we call agents, that will be able to not only automatize part of the action, but are able to take decision and broaden the impact that the insight can generate.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Obviously, AI is used across all the phases, from Discovery!
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Gianluca Ferranti: customer feedback, so being able to exponentially increase the number of sources, generate the insight, and spin off some automation that will help generate impact from this insights.
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Gianluca Ferranti: So, as we say, the change is moving from
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Gianluca Ferranti: an analytics platform to an agent-driven VOC program.
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Gianluca Ferranti: In this case, these agents, and you will see, Mike will go in the second part of today's presentation very deep into the program and our current offering and roadmap, is being able
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Gianluca Ferranti: to automatically identify emerging issue. In this case.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Being able to monitor a lot of different and heterogeneous data sources, might be public data, might be internal data, might be social channel, might be rating and review. Prioritize the opportunity.
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Gianluca Ferranti: and trigger some action. These three activities will then be conveyed in a generic AI, so there will be an agent that is able to extract
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Gianluca Ferranti: Intelligence from the process and spin off a closed-the-loop continuous learning process.
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Gianluca Ferranti: So what's our vision? Well, we are working since, I would say, a year and a half now on this program. Internally, we call it the program Avanti.
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Gianluca Ferranti: That is our vision to be a long-term provider of an engine that will help global brands
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Gianluca Ferranti: deploy a centralized VOC program that will help to, first of all, unify all the signal. So, imagine being able, in a single platform, to convey all the type of customer feedback, from
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Gianluca Ferranti: tax base.
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Gianluca Ferranti: reviews on analytics, more and more to the multimedia communication that happens on YouTube, on TikTok, or on social media in general. But not only. Also, we see in customer care more and more clients being able to post a photo or a video of their experience with the product.
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Gianluca Ferranti: From that, move into what we call real-time intelligence. Have…
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Gianluca Ferranti: A team of agents that are specialized to analyze this vast amount of data, and take some decision, spin-off workflow, and involve the right team of the right user without
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Gianluca Ferranti: They need to be programmed up front.
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Gianluca Ferranti: And so…
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Gianluca Ferranti: What does this, POC system, agent PO system, look like? How would I… how we envision this, way of working? First of all, we think that there are, five-step an agentic environment will do. The first one is the ingest
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Gianluca Ferranti: the data. In this case, the paradig shift is that a set of agents, a team of agents, will be able to
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Gianluca Ferranti: find the insight by theirself. This is the first very paradigm… big paradigm shift. It's not anymore to generate the feedback channel, like in surveys, sending out email, or SMS, or at the kiosk, but in this case, it's an agent, when instructed.
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Gianluca Ferranti: on the goal, for example, competitive analysis, or investigating a macro segment, or investigating a territory, is able to
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Gianluca Ferranti: discover new channel, and start collecting that information. The second one is reasoning, identifying pattern, analyzing root cause of a problem, or defining priorities in a portfolio or SQ category optimization.
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Gianluca Ferranti: It will be able Plan what is the optimal action plan, and escalate whenever needed to
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Gianluca Ferranti: the human team, to getting some… to get, instruction on how to… to do that. And as I said before, after running Workflow and,
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Gianluca Ferranti: scaling alert or routing workflow to the appropriate team, it will be able to learn from the experience and constantly improve.
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Gianluca Ferranti: The typical use case might be proactive alerting, detecting a spite in a sentiment, or a data feature, or in a certain product, and auto-alerting a product team or a customer care team.
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Gianluca Ferranti: or routing proactively to the right team and insight that emerge from the analysis without being instructed to do it in advance. Another area that Agentic BOC will excel is in
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Gianluca Ferranti: taking out from the CMI team the effort to generate reports. Report will be automatically generated and optimized based on customer consumption and customer usage.
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Gianluca Ferranti: To go there, there are three main pillars that, in our opinion, needs to be very solid at the foundation of the architecture, and the first one is obviously the data. I mean, to be able to give a comprehensive view
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Gianluca Ferranti: of, what are the product intelligence main topic. We need to be able to collect
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Gianluca Ferranti: Huge amount of data that might include
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Gianluca Ferranti: The typical sources we have used so far, but can extend in all the channels that are available online more and more as a data point, a data…
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Gianluca Ferranti: an area of data collection. There is a second need that is the capability to create what we call vertical intelligence.
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Gianluca Ferranti: the possibility to enable high precision in the analysis, because otherwise the risk is to generate a lot of noise instead of a lot of value. And the third one that is very
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Gianluca Ferranti: typical of an energetic approach is to use workflow and create integration that might be done through NCP gateway, API integration, or intelligent routing within the
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Gianluca Ferranti: Infrastructure for our clients.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Why we think that, as a company, we are positioned well to achieve that? First of all, because in the past 10 years, we accumulated a huge
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Gianluca Ferranti: consumer data lake that we use not only to extract insight, but we have been using, and we will be continuously use
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Gianluca Ferranti: Instruct and train our, our agent.
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Gianluca Ferranti: We have a native
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Gianluca Ferranti: POC architecture, where we have been able to create more than 50 product categories that are fine-tuned and optimized in any aspect, from the data model where we store the information, to the taxonomy and the laxington we use to analyze the data.
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Gianluca Ferranti: And,
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Gianluca Ferranti: Overall, the fact that from day one, we have created an enterprise-grade infrastructure, fully resilient in terms of data privacy, security, and scalability, but with the ability to
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Gianluca Ferranti: play what we call the startup speed, adapting and adjusting our solution. So the foundations, are already there.
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Gianluca Ferranti: the omni-channel platform, very recently we expanded into the multi-channel intelligence, starting from video, the YouTube Analyzer we very recently announced, and a few other multi-channel solutions, and AI-first architecture with the capability to have NLP at scale. This is not just wrapping
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Gianluca Ferranti: GPTs, and that's a very interesting topic. I'm sure my colleagues would go deeper into that.
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Gianluca Ferranti: is not just wearing a clothes, or a GPT, or a Gemini, but is able to use fine-tuned NPL models that are designed on taxonomy specific for your industry and your product.
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Gianluca Ferranti: So… This will generate capability for you that are,
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Gianluca Ferranti: For sure, accelerated, and the piece of,
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Gianluca Ferranti: The velocity you will be able to maintain in bringing the insight to all the teams internal to the company, being their strategy team, product development team, e-commerce, and go-to-market or customer care, will certainly benefit from this technology.
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Gianluca Ferranti: So, if we look at how
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Gianluca Ferranti: this will impact your daily job. We think that there is, again, a new shift also in the distribution within the company of the different tasks. An agentic system will for sure free up resources
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Gianluca Ferranti: or give the opportunity to focus more on the strategic side, on the analysis of the insight, more than the generation and the management of the insight. So, the role of the VCO team will shift
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Gianluca Ferranti: Toward governing intelligence, defining priorities, and supervising the system more than on collecting and generating data.
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Gianluca Ferranti: To this, I finish my presentation, and I land over to Mike. I try to give you
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Gianluca Ferranti: a broad overview of what we see on the market, where we see the market going, and for sure, what is our strategic intent for the coming future. So, Mike's…
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Gianluca Ferranti: It's now your time to go deeper into the product.
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Mike Ruini: Yes, thank you very much, John Luca, and thanks for joining. Hope you're seeing my screen.
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Mike Ruini: All good? Okay.
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Gianluca Ferranti: Yep, we see that.
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Mike Ruini: So, okay. So, like, you hinted, let's say, at wonderful we are driving our, innovation path, to build an ecosystem of.
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Mike Ruini: agent and tools that can support humans in, doing product intelligence, actually in solving product intelligence-related use cases. And we called it, Agent EQX for product intelligence.
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Mike Ruini: So, before I go into that, I would like to spend a few things just to put things in perspective. So, a couple of things to put things in perspective.
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Mike Ruini: And also to help you orient yourself in this, you know, all these buzzwords, agents, LLMs, ARAG, etc. So,
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Mike Ruini: Today, it's, fair to say that the vast majority of what you see, the LLMs, or, you know, software that are using the word, we have an agent, and they put it in production in their software, they're not really an agent. Like Jerluca said, most of them, they are,
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Mike Ruini: LLMs linked to deterministic pipelines, like, you know, if you're asking… if you have a tool that generates a picture from the text, this is not an agent, it's very deterministic, or if you have a bot that reads given answer based, a summary or an answer based on a knowledge base, this, again, it's not
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Mike Ruini: an agent, okay? This is a very deterministic pipeline, that it involves LLMs, but it's not… it's not really an agent. An agent is something a little bit more complicated, where LLMs and AI is involved.
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Mike Ruini: But it enacts with a different perspective. So, it's like, an agent is something you give it a task, and it's… this LLM, this AI, uses…
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Mike Ruini: all the resources that he has at his disposal to solve it, okay, in the best way possible.
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Mike Ruini: So, this is something that, for instance, if you need to book a restaurant in a Thai restaurant nearby, and you want the agent to do it, the agent has to have access to the maps, the list of the restaurants, the booking API of the software of the restaurant is using.
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Mike Ruini: And on and on. So, with all these things, and it will try to orchestrate all these activities in order to fulfill the task.
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Mike Ruini: And again.
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Mike Ruini: if you do a parallelism, running a business intelligence use case is a complex task, okay? And that's why it's not enough to have an LLM wrapper or a deterministic pipeline, that's why you need an agent to do it.
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Mike Ruini: Okay, so another important thing that is very relevant, let's say we have our agents that can help us in doing our, you know, business, in supporting our business intelligence use case, okay? It's fantastic, but again, what most of the people are seeing is just the tip of the iceberg, okay?
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Mike Ruini: Because the agents are great, okay, but they stay afloat, because of what it's…
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Mike Ruini: below the surface of the water. And in our case, for the business intelligence use case, is the data. Okay, so you need to have, the agents must be dealing and must be operating with tools and data, above all.
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Mike Ruini: that is reliable, trustable, because otherwise, if you have poor data, then the output that the agent will give is going to be very poor, and people, they don't see this, so they just see the agents. So imagine that, you know, the data in the map for the agent that's booking, it's corrupt, it's dirty, and instead of booking a Thai restaurant, it's booking a pizzeria. Then you go there, you are very upset, okay? So, and this is the same
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Mike Ruini: that we have… one can experience in the business intelligence use case. So this is why it's very important. To give you an example, so I, I, we, of course, we are doing a lot of comparison internally. If you are asking, one of the best agent infrastructure that is available, a simple business intelligence question.
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Mike Ruini: The results, it's really hard to digest. So, first of all, I had to wait 15 minutes to get the answer. The question was very simple. I had to hunt it in 10 pages of facts that maybe they were not 100% even real.
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Mike Ruini: I asked it later again, and the answer was different, and the traceability was really poor, even though they put sources attached to it, but it's… you can't really trust them. And again, it was like, you know, an average 4.8 star, okay, for this KitchenAid machine.
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Mike Ruini: If you have instead an agent who's plugged on
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Mike Ruini: well-vetted and curated data, you can get something different. So you… to the same question, you have a… you have to wait 15 seconds, okay, like in this case.
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Mike Ruini: The question… the answer is short and to the point, it's consistent over time, and it's 100% traceable, because the agent knows it's basing… it's basing its answer on the data, uncertified data.
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Mike Ruini: So, this is basically why we,
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Mike Ruini: Then we need another layer that, basically index… enrich and index and clean this data so that it can be used, it can be put to use to anything that it's above, okay? In this case, energetic ecosystem.
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Mike Ruini: create to work on projects, on common projects, but maybe most importantly, what we want to do is that we want to expose our agents, and therefore our intelligence, to external agents, okay? Because there is this, you know, high… it's height, but it's, maybe it's going to be a reality very soon. It's like, there will be agents that will be working behind the scene.
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Mike Ruini: in… to be… to be able to support three different phases of the product intelligence. We call it Explore, Launch, and Decide. So, explore is basically when we want to create a new product, design a new product, enter into a new category, and so we have agents who have specialized in… to solve problems inside this
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Mike Ruini: this, use case. Then we have other agencies who instead are optim… are helping you optimize and follow and monitor when you are launching a new product, okay? So, right before and immediately after. And then we have also other agents in our family that can help you, help our users, or to address,
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Mike Ruini: So, in terms of agents, so I'm gonna just give you, introduce you to three of them here, just for the sake of making it quick. We have more, so we are building more behind the scenes, and we'll release them more in the next, months.
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Mike Ruini: But we started with CAPR, which is our first agent, which is basically the agent that is, we call it the business analyst, companion, because it's, supporting business,
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Mike Ruini: Then we have another agent that we are working on is Mario. We call it Mario, it's the market explorer, so it's an agent that has access to massive amount of data from online web shops, okay? And it can help you understand what's going on in the market from, you know, who are the brands, what's the brand concentration for a specific category, which are the fastest.
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Mike Ruini: Then we have also this other agent we call Perry, which is the persona analyst, which is basically… we heard this use case about personas quite often from our customers, that they want to use our customer feedback data to create personas or to validate personas, and again, when we looked at it from our angle, we say, okay, well, if we…
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Mike Ruini: compare the person to see which are the personas, who's… who are the large dog owners in Germany, and compare them with the ones that you find in Spain, okay? So this is something that you can do with two prompts, instead of having to wait maybe two weeks from an agency to deliver you the market research.
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Mike Ruini: We have basically an agent, more than one agent for each phases, but in, you know, just to summarize what does Agent EQX bring to the table for enterprise, okay, what will bring? So, for once, a new way to explore and explo… and exploit, as well, customer feedback data, okay? So, it's something that is go beyond
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Mike Ruini: beyond the usual dashboard charts experience. It's something new, it's something more advanced, that can fast-track some of the… many of the operations that we… you guys are spending time with. And then the other part, which is, again, it's a flexible way, a more flexible way to integrate trusted voice of the customer insights.
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Mike Ruini: Now, so I know we are, we are mindful of time, so I, I'll,
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Mike Ruini: Okay, okay, so for the sake of time, as I said, I recorded the video because, you know, the agents, they have some waiting time, because they need to crunch a lot of data sometimes, so to make it faster, I recorded the video to show you some of the tools, Kepler in action using some of the tools that we've built in our toolkit for agents, okay? So,
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Mike Ruini: And, the… the agent is, is, identifying, basically, looking at the data, and it's only picking the data with it, whether it's, like, a time informa… time-related information. And this is really something nice, because it can give us then an insight that it's telling us with numbers, which… so it's not just a summary, okay, or a RAG summary, this is a really…
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Mike Ruini: that are, let's say, in a way, giving us more context, and also helping us giving some recommendations. So, in this case, we can see that the people are wishing, they're expecting to have a formula that improves the… besides the coverage, it improves also the iteration of the product.
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Mike Ruini: Okay? And again, everything, this is, like, just an example. This is one of the reviews, in this case, that has been used to generate the insects. It's a young adult that has a skin dryness problem, and she's very, very upset, okay, about it. So, it's something that, if you want to
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Mike Ruini: explore a little bit the data, with, to find out more about teenagers. So, first of all, I'm asking, where are they coming from? Okay, so where are these teenagers, coming from? And again, using the data and the segmentations, I…
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Mike Ruini: pull this information and generates what we call personas list, okay? This is one of the tools that Kepler is using at the moment. And, as you can see, as expected, you know, teenagers, they're using foundation to cover for acne, skin problems, okay? But also, another personas that I found very interesting is that there are
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Mike Ruini: So, moving on, we changed subject, so this is a space where we have, kitchen appliances, and again, I'm, I'm a, I'm a, I would say, proud owner of a kitchenette Machine, because I like them very much.
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Mike Ruini: I can see that all of the people who were reporting problems with the bowl of this product, they were also complaining about the lack of a handle, because this product comes without a handle in the bowl. And so, it's something that I also feel, because it's not super stable to be used without a handle. And so I could see that this is reflected 100%
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Mike Ruini: Saying, and in this case, the… the… it's very interesting, because they say this product is also helping with the full regrowth, which is something super interesting, because if you want to make, maybe, a marketing campaign, you can say this product is something… it's a product that is fulfilling
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Mike Ruini: Okay, so, as I said, so this was just a preview. Agents, our agent tick strategy is something that we are working very hard to implement and to bring it to our customers. Of course, if you want to
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Mike Ruini: try it, or want to see a demo, if you're not our customers, feel free to reach out. And again, it's also important because we also want to share how we envision the integration of this… of the… this… it's a new topic, we want to help our customer to better integrate our data, our agents, into their ecosystem. So, this is a QR code, you can just take a picture of it, and you can book a session.
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Elisabetta Pisani: But I imagine he wanted to say that, we will host an office hour session next month on this topic, so if you have follow-up questions that we didn't cover, use cases that you want to cover with Mike.
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Elisabetta Pisani: We will issue the communication, and you will be able to send the questions via email before the office hours.
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Elisabetta Pisani: Okay, so thank you very much for joining us today. I still see that Jaluca cannot speak, so thank you for joining us today, and we'll follow up with an interesting office hours.
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Elisabetta Pisani: Goodbye.
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Mike Ruini: Thank you very much. Bye-bye.
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